§ 01 · Second Helping

We wait for
the second
helping.

Large, established companies sometimes fall hard on a single headline. We research whether the drop is actually justified, and when it is not, we still do not buy — not until price itself confirms the recovery. Positions are held for a 5 to 15 percent move.

This is the slower, smaller sibling of the SPY options service. Gains per position are more modest and they take weeks rather than hours. Most candidates never become trades at all — they are discarded, invalidated or expired, and every one of them stays on the ledger with its reason.

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3 candidates on the ledger · 0 reached entry

§ 02 · The Scan

Find the
dislocation.

Once a day, after the close, we screen a universe of large, liquid companies for drops that are unusual for that specific stock — not just large in absolute terms.

Market cap floor
$10B
only large, established companies
Liquidity floor
$50M
average daily dollar volume over 30 sessions
Price floor
$10
no sub-threshold shares
Volatility test
-3σ
against the company's own 90-session return history, excluding the drop itself
Sector-relative gap
4 pts
how far the drop exceeds its sector's move that day
Slow version
8%
cumulative decline over 3 sessions or fewer, same sector test
Universe
63
active large-cap symbols screened
Cadence
Daily
after the close, every trading session

Live parameters, read from the engine. Every candidate also stores the exact values it was judged under.

A stock that fell because the market fell is not a dislocation. It is beta.

Both tests have to pass, and the sector-relative one is the test that matters. A six percent drop means something very different in a utility than in a high-beta name, so the first test asks whether the move is extreme relative to that company's own trailing volatility.

The second asks whether the company fell further than its sector did on the same day. If the whole sector was down and this name simply came along for the ride, there is no company-specific news to be wrong about, and no overreaction to recover from. Buying it is a bet on the market, which is not what this strategy is.

Symbols already holding an open position or a live candidate are skipped, so the same dislocation is never counted twice.

§ 03 · The Read

Was the drop
deserved?

Every candidate is researched against the actual news that caused the fall, then classified into exactly one of three verdicts. The full reasoning, the biggest risk and what would invalidate the thesis are all published on the ledger.

Verdict 01

Structural

The news permanently impairs earnings power. A guidance cut with a real demand story behind it, accounting irregularities, a dividend cut, the loss of a major customer, regulatory action that changes the business, emergency dilution, a patent cliff.

Discarded permanently. No override, at any conviction.

Verdict 02

Cyclical

Real, but recoverable. A weak quarter, a currency or input-cost headwind, a one-off charge, a supply disruption, litigation with bounded exposure. The damage is genuine and the business is not broken.

Eligible, if conviction clears the bar.

Verdict 03

Overreaction

The selloff is not supported by new information. A sympathy move off a peer's bad news, a downgrade containing nothing new, index or rebalancing flows, a thin short report, a misread headline.

Eligible, if conviction clears the bar.

A favourable verdict never buys anything. It only arms the candidate — and only at a conviction of 3 or better out of five. Price confirmation is still mandatory, and an armed candidate that never gets that confirmation simply expires after 15 sessions, unbought.

Structural verdicts are discarded and can never reach entry through any path, including a manual override. If the read was wrong, the candidate has to be researched again from scratch.

§ 04 · The Trigger

We sit out the
falling knife.

This is what separates this from buying the dip. Being right about the news is not enough — price has to prove the recovery in three explicit stages before a single share is bought.

The three-stage price confirmationPrice path diagram. A share price falls sharply to a post-drop low. It then rises off that low to a bounce high, which is recorded. It pulls back toward the low without breaking it, forming a higher low called the retest. It then rises again and closes above the bounce high, which is the entry point. The stop sits below the retest low.POST-DROP LOWBOUNCE HIGHSTOPWE DO NOT BUY HERE1 · Bounce2 · Retest3 · EntryINVALIDATED
Bounce is a close 2% above the low; entry is a close above the bounce high. Not to scale.
Stage 01

Bounce

Price closes at least 2% above the post-drop low, and that low is at least one session old. The low and the high of the bounce are both recorded. Nothing is bought here.

The knife has stopped falling.

Stage 02

Retest

Price pulls back toward the low, coming within 3% of it, but holds above it — a higher low. If it closes more than 1% below the recorded low instead, the candidate is invalidated on the record and is never re-armed.

The low is holding, not breaking.

Stage 03

Entry

Price closes back above the bounce high. Only now does a position open, in one normalized lot, with the stop already placed under the retest low. This is the only event that ever opens a position.

The recovery is moving, not hoped for.

§ 05 · Risk

How a position
ends.

Every exit is decided before entry. There is no discretionary holding on and no adding to a loser.

Position size$1,000 normalized
Stop1.5% below the retest low
First target+7% — half the position comes off
After that fillstop on the remainder moves to breakeven
Hard target+15% — the rest is closed
Time stop30 sessions, wherever price is
Averaging downnever, under any condition

Portfolio rails

At most 10 positions open at once, and at most 2 in any single sector. One position per symbol, ever — a second dislocation in a name we already hold is not an invitation to double up.

New entries halt entirely while SPY is more than 10% off its recent peak. A market-wide dislocation breaks the idiosyncratic premise the whole strategy rests on: if everything is falling together, a single name falling is not telling us anything about that name.

Blocked entries are recorded as blocked. They do not quietly disappear from the ledger.

§ 06 · Waitlist

Watch it
from the start.

Second Helping has no track record yet. Join the list and you will see it accumulate in public from its very first candidate — including the ones we pass on.

You would be the first on this list

§ 07 · FAQ

Questions,
answered.

Drop us a line at hello@poutinecapital.com.

How is this different from the options product?+
Different instrument, different clock. The options service trades SPY contracts on intraday reversals and is usually in and out the same session. Second Helping buys shares in individual large companies after a news-driven drop and holds for weeks. The gains per position are smaller and slower; the trade-off is that a share does not expire.
Why not buy immediately when the research says the market overreacted?+
Because being right about the news says nothing about when the selling stops. A stock can be mispriced and keep falling for weeks. We let price prove the turn first: a bounce off the low, a pullback that holds above it, then a close back above the bounce high. That costs us the first part of the recovery, deliberately.
What happens when the research and the price disagree?+
Price wins, in both directions. A favourable verdict with no price confirmation expires unbought after 15 sessions. A favourable verdict that then breaks below its recorded low is invalidated and never re-armed. And a structural verdict is discarded permanently no matter how attractive the chart looks afterwards.
How long is a position held?+
Until the first target at +7% takes half off, the hard target at +15% closes the rest, the stop is hit, or 30 sessions pass — whichever comes first. In practice that means weeks, not days, and never longer than the time stop.
How many candidates actually become trades?+
Fewer than most people expect, and we would rather say so than imply otherwise. A candidate has to survive the sector-relative test, then the research verdict, then a three-stage price confirmation. Every one that does not survive stays on the ledger with the stage it failed at and the reason.
Why $1,000 per position?+
Every position on both ledgers is normalized to the same $1,000 so the results are directly comparable across strategies. Your actual size is your own decision.
Is this financial advice?+
No. Poutine Capital is informational only. We are not a registered investment advisor. Equity positions can fall further after they are bought, and past performance does not predict future results. Trade at your own risk. Full disclaimer at the bottom of the page.